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Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:38 pm
by Mathy
Hello !
I try to program a 24F16KA101 with my PICKIT2 tool.
First problem : I can't compile to chip, Flowcode report me an error.
Second one : When I import the hex file, the pickit 2 software tells me : Warning : some configuration words not in hex file.
Ensure default values above right are acceptable.
Third : If I ignore this message, the pickit 2 sofware return me : verification of configuration failed.
My program only try to blink a led to verify if the configutation word works with internal oscillator at 8 x 4PLL = 32 Mhz.
Thank you for your help
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:25 pm
by Sean
Can you post a copy of your program and/or the error message?
I have compiled several different led flashing programs for this device (using I/O and the LED component), but have not receive any compilation errors.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:25 pm
by Mathy
The compile to Hex works well, but to chip don't ( and it's works with Flowcode for PIC 8 bit )
So i try to program with the pickit2 Software with the hex file generated by Flowcode with the problem I described.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:26 am
by Benj
Hello,
If you click Chip -> Compiler settings then check your programmer settings are specified correctly as shown below.
--PICkit 2 Settings
C:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC16BIT V4\Tools\PICkit2\pk2cmd.exe
-BC:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC16BIT V4\Tools\PICkit2\ -P%a -F%f.hex -M -R
--PPP Config settings
C:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC16BIT V4\Tools\PPP\PPPv3.exe
-cs 1 -chip %a -config
If these settings are correct then please can you post up the compiler output messages so we can see the error PICkit is reporting.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:25 pm
by Mathy
Hi !
The directory path are not exactly the same but the settings....yes.
Just one thing, by default on the ppp config settings, the parameters are : -chip %a -config
If I change by -cs 1 -chip %a -config, there is no diffrence.
Below, you can see the cut.paste of the flowcode message :
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Launching the compiler...
C:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC24&dsPIC V4\Tools\MX_bats\pic16_C30_comp.bat "Flowcode1" "C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\Bureau\COTCAM~1" 24F16KA101
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrateur\Bureau\Cot‚ cam‚ra>pic30-gcc -c -mcpu=24F16KA101 -funsigned-char -fno-short-double -Os -I"C:\PROGRA~1\MATRIX~1\FLOWCO~4\Tools\MX_bats\..\C_tools\support\h" -I"C:\PROGRA~1\MATRIX~1\FLOWCO~4\Tools\MX_bats\..\MX_support" -Wall -std=gnu99 "Flowcode1".c -o "Flowcode1".o
Compilation successful!
Return code = 0
Launching the linker/assembler...
C:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC24&dsPIC V4\Tools\MX_bats\pic16_C30_link.bat "Flowcode1" 24F16KA101 PIC24F
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrateur\Bureau\Cot‚ cam‚ra>pic30-gcc -Wl,"Flowcode1".o,-L"C:\PROGRA~1\MATRIX~1\FLOWCO~4\Tools\MX_bats\..\C_tools\lib",--heap=256,--report-mem,--script="C:\PROGRA~1\MATRIX~1\FLOWCO~4\Tools\MX_bats\..\C_tools\Support\PIC24F\gld\p24F16KA101.gld",-o"Flowcode1".cof
Program Memory [Origin = 0x200, Length = 0x29ff]
section address length (PC units) length (bytes) (dec)
------- ------- ----------------- --------------------
.text 0x200 0x5aa 0x87f (2175)
.const 0x7aa 0x4 0x6 (6)
.text 0x7ae 0x65c 0x98a (2442)
.dinit 0xe0a 0x2 0x3 (3)
.isr 0xe0c 0x2 0x3 (3)
Total program memory used (bytes): 0x1215 (4629) 28%
Data EEPROM Memory [Origin = 0x7ffe00, Length = 0x200]
section address length (PC units) length (bytes) (dec)
------- ------- ----------------- --------------------
.eedata 0x7ffe00 0x2 0x2 (2)
Total data EEPROM used (bytes): 0x2 (2) <1%
Data Memory [Origin = 0x800, Length = 0x600]
section address alignment gaps total length (dec)
------- ------- -------------- -------------------
.heap 0x800 0 0x100 (256)
Total data memory used (bytes): 0x100 (256) 16%
Dynamic Memory Usage
region address maximum length (dec)
------ ------- ---------------------
heap 0x800 0x100 (256)
stack 0x900 0x500 (1280)
Maximum dynamic memory (bytes): 0x600 (1536)
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrateur\Bureau\Cot‚ cam‚ra>pic30-bin2hex "Flowcode1".cof
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrateur\Bureau\Cot‚ cam‚ra>pic30-objdump -S "Flowcode1".cof 1>"Flowcode1".asm
HEX file creation successful!
Return code = 0
Launching the programmer...
C:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC24&dsPIC V4\tools\PICkit2\pk2cmd.exe -BC:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC24&dsPIC V4\tools\PICkit2\ -PPIC24F16KA101 -FFlowcode1.hex -M -R
Could not find device PIC24F16KA101.
Return code = 36
Flowcode a été incapable de transférer l'algorigramme dans le microcontrôleur. Vérifier les options du programmateur et la connexion physique.
FINISHED
Thank you for your help
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:29 pm
by Mathy
But the programmer is well connected to my board and I can read the microcontroler with the pickit 2 software, I can erase it etc etc so the electric connection are OK.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:49 am
by Mathy
I have no interraction between the pickit 2 programmer and flowcode.
The target and busy LED stay off. When I use the pickit 2 software, everything goes well but there is a problem of fuse.
I don't have this problem with the PIC 8 bit release who works ok on the same PC.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:52 am
by Mathy
In the Flowcode Pickit 2 directory. There is a file : PK2DeviceFile.dat
In this file, there is nothing about 24f16ka101.
That is why I receive an error message by flowcode I think.
If I replace this file by the one present in the Microchip directory ( where 24f16ka101 exist ), Flowcode tells me : PK2DeviceFile.dat device file requires an update of pk2cmd.
How to fix the problem ?
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:09 am
by Benj
Hello,
Where did you get the update for the dat file from? You should also be able to get the updated PKCMD.exe from the same location. If not then it will be included inside the latest release of MPLAB.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:30 am
by Mathy
I get the update from the pickit2 microchip directory.
I don't have MPLAB. Thank you for the tips. I will try in fiw minutes.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:47 am
by Mathy
Noway,
PK2CMD isn't installed with MPLAB. Only pickit2V2.exe
I can download PK2CMD from the microchip website :
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/D ... Dv1-20.zip
But It is the same version who report me the same problem.
I have to buy a pickit 3 ?
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:09 pm
by Benj
Hello,
The PK2CMD should be located here in the MPLAB install.
C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPLAB IDE\Programmer Utilities
One alternative is to load the standard PICkit 2 programming software and then use the button at the bottom of the window to monitor the source hex file you are using. What this does is check to see when the hex file changes. As soon as the change is detected the PICkit will send the new hex file to the device. Beats having to manually load the file each time. I would say the PK2CMD is more functional then the PK3 version and from the reports I've seen the PK2 is the more reliable and faster device even if it does not support as many of the newer chips.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:36 pm
by Mathy
I found PK2CMD nowhere in the entire MPLAB directory ( MPLAB 8.66 )
I made a research on my C:\ and PK2CMD seams to be only in the Matrix Multimedia directory.
I only found PK3CMD in the MPLAB directory.
If I use the pickit 2 programming software, I always have the message I described on my first post.
I attached a picture.
I would like to use the 8Mhz internal oscillator + the x4 PLL = 32 Mhz
I add this code at the top of the program :
But my LED doesn't blink. I don't know where my problem comes from ?
The pickit 2 error message of my C code ?
Thank your for your time.
Mathy.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:57 pm
by Benj
Hello,
I'm ordering one of these chips now and hopefully it will be here in the next day or so and I will be able to provide better support to get this working for you.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:44 pm
by Mathy
Oh that's very nice! Thank you!
I should test it before...I have already made a board with this PIC ...
I choose him because of the two USART and the very small package ( ssop20 ).
See you soon
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:12 pm
by Mathy
Hi
Any news ?
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:57 pm
by Benj
Hello,
Still not had these devices in at the moment. I'll let you know as soon as they come in. Shouldn't be much longer.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:15 pm
by Mathy
Hi !
Any news about my problem ?
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 3:55 pm
by Benj
Hello,
These devices came in today and I have been able to replicate your problem
Launching the programmer...
C:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC24&dsPIC V4\Tools\PICkit2\pk2cmd.exe -BC:\Program Files\Matrix Multimedia\Flowcode PIC24&dsPIC V4\Tools\PICkit2\ -PPIC24F16KA101 -Ffc1.hex -M -R
Could not find device PIC24F16KA101.
I will see what I can find out and see if I can get this working for you.
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 4:02 pm
by Benj
Hello,
Right looks like I have gotten to the bottom of this. The PK2CMD tool does not support the KA range of devices. I have been online and looked at the latest version but it looks like this is still the version we included with the dsPIC version of Flowcode.
Funnily enough you cannot even program these devices via MPLAB.
Programming using the PICkit 2 stand alone software works fine.
Therefore you have two options.
1) Tell Microchip about the problem and ask for the KA devices to be supported.
2) Use my workaround where you have the PICkit 2 programming tool open and monitoring the Flowcode hex file so you do not have to manually program the device every time the hex file changes.
http://www.matrixmultimedia.com/mmforum ... 422#p24071
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:55 am
by Mathy
Hello,
Thank you for your help
I will ask Microchip to support the 24FxxKA device on PK2CMD.
About your workaround, I have the error message I posted above.
I have a problem with the configuration words. Is it a message we have with all the 24F device ?
I am not be able to blink a LED with my device and the internal oscillator and the code I posted.
Is it possible to help me ?
Somebody already use the internal oscillator of the 24F series ?
Thank you again,
Mathy
Re: Problem to program 24F16KA101
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:15 am
by Benj
Hello Mathy,
What if you try enabling the following configuration settings?
Clock switching and monitor selection - Bottom Option both enabled.
I also think you have to do something using C code to get the PLL to fire up correctly so the clock is at 32MHz and not 8MHz. There is a good microchip white paper detailing this or I can provide help if you get stuck.