Flowcode7 and ARM

[PicoPuls]

Hi
I am just trying to overview ARM
Flowcode supports approx 19 ARM chips
and the Mikroe compiler supports 895 ARM chips

The only thing that is strange is that no chip in the Flowcode list is supported by Mikroe
and no chip in the Mikroe list is supported by Flowcode
Why?

From Wikipedia:
With over 50 billion ARM processors produced, ARM is the most widely used instruction set architecture
in terms of quantity produced

Does Matrix plan to support more ARM chips in the future ?
Or are they already compatible somehow ?
Can anyone explain

The entire lists are below

Best regards
Bengt

FLOWCODE 7 supports
AT91SAM7S128
AT91SAM7S128_64
AT91SAM7S16
AT91SAM7S161
AT91SAM7S16_64
AT91SAM7S256
AT91SAM7S256_64
AT91SAM7S32
AT91SAM7S321
AT91SAM7S321_64
AT91SAM7S32_64
AT91SAM7S512
AT91SAM7S512_64
AT91SAM7S64
AT91SAM7S64_64
AT91SAM7S64_EK
AT91SAM7SE256
AT91SAM7SE32
AT91SAM7SE512


Mikroe C compiler supports

MK22FN128VDC10
MK22FN128VLL10
MK22FN128VLH10
MK22FN128VMP10
MK22FN128CAH12
MK22FN1M0VLH12
MK22FN1M0VLK12
MK22FN1M0VLL12
MK22FN1M0VLQ12
MK22FN1M0VMC12
MK22FN1M0VMD12
MK22FN256CAH12
MK22FN256VDC12
MK22FN256VLH12
MK22FN256VLL12
MK22FN256VMP12
MK22FN512VDC12
MK22FN512VLL12
MK22FN512VLH12
MK22FN512CAP12
MK22FN512VMP12
MK22FX512VLH12
MK22FX512VLK12
MK22FX512VLL12
MK22FX512VLQ12
MK22FX512VMC12
MK22FX512VMD12
MK64FN1M0VDC12
MK64FN1M0VLL12
MK64FN1M0VLQ12
MK64FN1M0VMD12
MK64FX512VDC12
MK64FX512VLL12
MK64FX512VLQ12
MK64FX512VMD12
CEC1302
LM3S101
LM3S102
LM3S1110
LM3S1133
LM3S1138
LM3S1150
LM3S1162
LM3S1165
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LM3S5K31
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LM3S5P31
LM3S5P36
LM3S5P3B
LM3S5P51
LM3S5P56
LM3S5R31
LM3S5R36
LM3S5T36
LM3S5U91
LM3S5Y36
LM3S600
LM3S601
LM3S608
LM3S610
LM3S6100
LM3S611
LM3S6110
LM3S612
LM3S613
LM3S615
LM3S617
LM3S618
LM3S628
LM3S6420
LM3S6422
LM3S6432
LM3S6537
LM3S6610
LM3S6611
LM3S6618
LM3S6633
LM3S6637
LM3S6730
LM3S6753
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LM3S6918
LM3S6938
LM3S6950
LM3S6952
LM3S6965
LM3S6C11
LM3S6C65
LM3S6G11
LM3S6G65
LM3S800
LM3S801
LM3S808
LM3S811
LM3S812
LM3S815
LM3S817
LM3S818
LM3S828
LM3S8530
LM3S8538
LM3S8630
LM3S8730
LM3S8733
LM3S8738
LM3S8930
LM3S8933
LM3S8938
LM3S8962
LM3S8970
LM3S8971
LM3S8C62
LM3S8G62
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LM3S9B81
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LM4F212H5QD
STM32F100C4
STM32F100C6
STM32F100C8
STM32F100CB
STM32F100R4
STM32F100R6
STM32F100R8
STM32F100RB
STM32F100RC
STM32F100RD
STM32F100RE
STM32F100V8
STM32F100VB
STM32F100VC
STM32F100VD
STM32F100VE
STM32F100ZC
STM32F100ZD
STM32F100ZE
STM32F101C4
STM32F101C6
STM32F101C8
STM32F101CB
STM32F101R4
STM32F101R6
STM32F101R8
STM32F101RB
STM32F101RC
STM32F101RD
STM32F101RE
STM32F101RF
STM32F101RG
STM32F101T4
STM32F101T6
STM32F101T8
STM32F101TB
STM32F101V8
STM32F101VB
STM32F101VC
STM32F101VD
STM32F101VE
STM32F101VF
STM32F101VG
STM32F101ZC
STM32F101ZD
STM32F107RB
STM32F107VB
STM32F101ZE
STM32F101ZG
STM32F102C4
STM32F102C6
STM32F102C8
STM32F102CB
STM32F102R4
STM32F102R6
STM32F102R8
STM32F102RB
STM32F103C4
STM32F103C6
STM32F103C8
STM32F103CB
STM32F103R4
STM32F103R6
STM32F103R8
STM32F103RB
STM32F103RC
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STM32F103ZC
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STM32F103ZG
STM32F105R8
STM32F105RB
STM32F105RC
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STM32L162RD
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STM32F417ZG
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STM32L151C8
STM32L151CB
STM32L151QC
STM32L151QD
STM32L151R6
STM32L151R8
STM32L151RB
STM32L151RC
STM32L151RD
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STM32L151VD
STM32L151ZC
STM32L151ZD
STM32L152C6
STM32L152C8
STM32L152CB
STM32L152QC
STM32L152QD
STM32L152R6
STM32L152R8
STM32L152RB
STM32L152RC
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STM32L152V8
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STM32L152VD
STM32L152ZC
STM32L152ZD
STM32L162QD
STM32L162VD
STM32F101ZF
STM32F405OE
STM32F405OG
STM32F415OG
STM32F302RB
STM32F429BG
STM32F302RC
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STM32L100C6
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STM32F078VB
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[QMESAR]

I am just trying to overview ARM
Flowcode supports approx 19 ARM chips
and the Mikroe compiler supports 895 ARM chips

Well in my opinion the answer to this is very easy ,MATRIX build up their support for devices as resources allows them and in the process what is supported gets support when needed unlike the mikroElectronika
stuff ,They started with the ARM compilers 3 years ago and since that time none of the other compilers which has numerous bugs and problems get fixed or updated
The dsPIC Compilers of mikroE was updated nearly 3 years ago ,PIC32 compilers were updated 2 years ago and the PIC compiler not even so yes they support 895 ARM devices but in the process neglected all their other users such as ATMEL and PIC
They jumped on the ARM band wagon with the hope to increase there turn over but in my view they are loosing long time Microchip users in this process as the support for ARM takes all their available resources

Any case this is a Flow code Forum and not the place to discuss mikroE tools and development board ,
As I saw a number of post from you regarding mikroE boards and Compilers what are you exactly looking for in FC or what do you want to achieve with FC just curious

[PicoPuls]

Thank you QMESAR for very interesting info

My basic view is that Flowcode is a revolutionary approach to programming microprocessors.
Simplifying technology this way is perhaps one of the greatest things that happened to microprocessing
and electronics.

The number of chips suppored is not that important from my point of view,
the Flowcode idea itself is the real big thing. In my world Flowcode is the center of gravity, no doubt.

On the PIC side it is really impressing how many chips Flowcode is supporting. Flowcode supports far more chips
than you can develop on the Matrix hardware and e-blocks.

That's where mikroe and other 3 parts vendor comes in. They have experimental boards that seem to work
with Flowcode to fill the gap. I am now working with dsPIC33EP512MU810 that Flowcode supports in a great way
and where Mikroe has the hardware that Matrix is still missing. Combining building blocks this way is powerful
and speeds up development.

Regarding ARM, I am so far just curious what is going on. No project in sight so far.
In principle, It is far better to have 5 chips supported with perfection than 1000 supported chips with bugs.

Best regards
Bengt

[QMESAR]

On the PIC side it is really impressing how many chips Flowcode is supporting. Flowcode supports far more chips
than you can develop on the Matrix hardware and e-blocks.

Well you will b surprised how many PIC users there are in the world in 2013 Microcip was awarded by Samsung as their top supplier with 10 billion PIC's to Samsung alone
I personlay does not use ARM at all I use 8 bit ,16 bit and PIC32 as my devices and in this way I can just use code written for a dsPIC or PIC24 directly to a 32 bit chip(PIC32)(with very limited changes such as the configuration) as the peripherals are exactly the same on both which speed development up and time to market which means money in my pocket as this allows me to standardize my Code modules and their reuse in other projects an allows me to standardize my development hardware chain regardless processing power the project needs be it 8 bit or 16 or 32 bit and FC7 supports a large number of PIC32 devices including the MZ family with double flouting point engine and 200 Mhz there is nothing that ARM has that I can not do with a PIC32 and in many case in my opinion even better ,I have no need for any ARM products as everything that in this Embedded world is supported by some device from Microchip and with FC7 most of these devices are supported

My expectation is that after this huge step MATRIX took with the road including the XC compilers they will add probably STM to the ARM device support hang in there it will happen thinking of it most likely Add more ATMEL devices as ATMEL belongs to Microchip and MATRIX is an official 3rd party tool supplier for Microchip
this is just my thinking and not speaking on behalf of MATRIX

Have good time

[Steve]

We are looking to improve coverage of ARM support in Flowcode int he near future. Does anyone have any particular request for chips/ranges?

Regards,
Steve,

[Benj]

We have gotten quite far with the STM32 range and it looks very promising. Still a long way to go with this in terms of generating the chip definition files and testing the CAL but hopefully we should be able to offer these devices in the near future.

Steve,

Lots of ARM discussions over the years, from my experience I would rank the requirement for the ranges like this.

1) STM32
2) NXP
3) Atmel

[QMESAR]

In my experience talking with other developers it seems Benj is spot on
(1) STM
(2) NXP
(3) ATMEL

[PicoPuls]

Hi
> We are looking to improve coverage of ARM support in Flowcode int he near future. Does anyone have any particular request for chips/ranges?
Good news!

I might be wrong, but from my perspective right now
Flowcode / Matrix offers the best and most innovative development approach in the world
and Mikroe offers the best experimental boards http://www.mikroe.com/easymx-pro/stm32/
It has everything on board and I love the connectivity and overview
So my suggestion for a priority chip development is STM32F107VCT6

All parts will win on picking and combining the optimal pieces.

Matrix also has an excellent and unique range of e-blocks
and it would be great with a simple, small and cheap adapter
from pin header to sub9

In my humble opinion,
Best regards
Bengt

[PicoPuls]

>> Does anyone have any particular request for chips/ranges?

I answered in August : So my suggestion for a priority chip development is STM32F107VCT6

Further reading of datasheets indicate:
Tiva seems to be the same as Stellaris but Tiva has added features like motion control PWM's and
Quadature Encoders and USB On-The-Go

Would TM4C129XNCZAD be a better suggestion ?

[celebriums]

Hi All

I think the FLOWCODE the ARM core; NXP, STM processor family in Texas should support.